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ok its been done to death but...

Post by Hero of the Day » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:02 pm

...whats everyones take on Steve Irwins (the crocodile hunter) death.
He seemed to realize the fact that someday he would meet his match...and seemed to feel it would happen it the ocean. That said I feel its unfortunate but he got what he deserved. Man was never intended to subdue wild animals (why else have we come up with multitudes of devices to kill, injure and or mutilate wild animals). I also believe the guy was overhyped...I liken it to Jackass...I just dont get it. Also the guy was kind of annoying in my opinion.

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Post by seajayjay » Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:17 am

Well I agree with Hero he had it coming a guy who wrangles pissed off snakes and alagators is going to die some time.

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Post by MP81 » Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:27 am

Yes, but I don't recall seeing him wrestling stingrays. Who the hell knows, he probably was when the barb pierced his heart, an event so rare, it's quite hard to believe.

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Post by Supernovae » Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:24 am

Well, Steve attempted and succeded at taking the barb out of his heart. Which considering all things is probably a fucking stupid thing to do because it made everything worse.

Perhaps the bastard should have studied Rays a little bit more closely.
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Post by Hellmark » Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:20 am

Either way, he was already fucked. All that did was make him die faster. He would have died if he left it in

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Post by Hero of the Day » Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:48 pm

possibly not... it really depends on exactly where in the heart it hit
and since it is barbed....its alot like pulling a fishhook out. I do believe he would have had some chance of survival had he not attempted to remove it.

I am actually suprised that some news network or someone didnt talk to some head of an emergency room or a heart surgeon about this.
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Post by Hellmark » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:58 am

From the news report I saw, involving the doctors, they said he was fucked already, due to the poison. All removing it did was speeding up the bleeding out. If there was no poison, he'd have lasted.

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Post by Zoltan » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:54 pm

I liked the guy. He made good shows. And though he kept pushing the limits all his grown life he'd have deserved more than dying in such a stupid way. I know of many people who do things zillion times as stupid on a daily basis and get to be 70 or 80. George W. Bush, Tony Blair, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and the list goes on infinitely... Irwine was plain stupid, but there are so many bad people that deserve to be punished instead of him for being stupid.

His job was not any more dangerous than a Formula 1 driver's or a fighter pilot's. It was an accident. And this accident left two kids without a father, and a wife without a husband.

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Post by Venomous » Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:41 pm

Okay, this is a topic I've been meaning to give my overdue two cents worth on since before this thread was even posted. I was originally going to make an article out of it myself. Then Jason posted this thread before I could, and for a while I contemplated writing the article anyway, and tacking this thread to the end of the article. Then, after a while, it just seemed so much like yesterday's news that I felt like an idiot posting it as an article. So I was just going to reply here, but then even that got to be so obscelete that I ended up just not doing anything.

But after I'd gone to the trouble of making a funny and slightly tasteless graphic to go with my article, it never stopped annoying me that I never posted, so here it is, many, many months after the fact - my thoughts on Steve Irwin and his death!

<a href="http://www.socialdeviancy.com/cgi-bin/v ... .gif"><img src="http://www.socialdeviancy.com/gfx/thumb ... ingray.gif" width="226" height="120" border="0" align="left"></a>It is a poorly-kept secret among those who know me well, that I never had any love for Steve Irwin. Despite all the wonderful things he may or may not have done, I always despised the way he portrayed Australians to the world. Just when the Crocodile Dundee humor of the 80s had finally faded into obscurity, up rose Irwin with his inane stereotype of the "ocker" Aussie bushman, who says things like "Crikey!" and "True blue!" and "Strewth!" and all kinds of other ridiculous things that no average Australian has said without sarcasm intended since the gold rush era. And with his khaki pants and bushman's hat, he made the world go back to thinking that every Australian rides a kangaroo to work and plays the didgeridoo. Yech.

Now, I'm not saying that being an annoying dork makes you deserving of death. But I will quote the Breakfast Club in saying, "Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.". If you make a living taunting, harrassing, and wrestling with, the world's most dangerous, primal, venomous, wild animals, eventually, someday, you're going to get yourself fucked up. It's a simple fact of nature. If you run into a burning building enough times, one day you will get burned. If you stick a lightning rod up your ass in a thunderstorm, soon enough, you'll get electrocuted. Why the world was in mourning over a death that any fool could have seen coming, baffles me outright.

But forget my personal opinions of the man and his career. The fact is, Steve Irwin died doing what he loved. Who could want more than that? I'm sure most NASCAR drivers would rather die behind the wheel, than old and decrepid in bed. I know I hope to die of an anuerysm right at the point of orgasm while fucking a nubile teenage girl. I bet if anybody had asked Steve Irwin when he was alive, if he could choose his own death, what would it be, he would he said he'd want to die wrestling with a dangerous animal. So if nothing else, the man got a good death for the life he chose.

In a nutshell, I have no sympathy or remorse for that death. I won't be a callous bastard and say "I'm fucking glad he's dead because he annoyed the hell out of me!", but I certainly won't miss him. As much as I personally disliked how he made his fortune and fame, I know he put a lot of that money and influence to some really good causes - it wasn't like he annoyed a nation and disgraced his people just so he could get rich and fat and retire a billionaire. A lot of his work preserving wildlife and protected species will never be forgotten. But I'm not going to miss the irritating twang of his insanely over-exaggerated accent every time I turn on the television, not one bit.

One more thing I want to say before I end this stupidly belated speech. Steve Irwin was - and this is a statistically proven fact - vastly more popular overseas than he was in Australia. Though of course he had his share of Australian fans - as evidenced by the slew of well-wishing vandalism that sprung up after his death - his popularity within Australia was not even close to the cultural icon status the rest of the world gave him. For the most part, he was tolerated as a harmlessly amusing buffoon who wasn't doing any real harm. But he was no revered national icon - at least, not until after his death, of course...

So, there you have it. My 2c worth, with interest over the six months since this thread was started, so... my 2.2c worth. =P
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