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Should a semi-regular Podcast series by Venomous be added to Social Deviancy?

Hell yeah, that's a fantastic idea! I'd definately tune into that!
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It's a decent idea, but it depends on how you implement it. Worth a shot, though.
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I really don't care. I don't read the articles anyway, and I wouldn't listen to the Podcasts either!
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Nah, that's a pretty lame idea. There must be a better way to boost this site!
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That's the worst fucking idea I've ever heard, Venomous. You are an idiot.
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To Pod or Not To Pod, That Is The Question...

Post by Venomous » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:34 pm

<a href="http://www.socialdeviancy.com/cgi-bin/v ... .gif"><img src="http://www.socialdeviancy.com/gfx/thumb ... odcast.gif" width="120" height="120" border="0" align="left"></a>Loyal subjects and disinterested bystanders, I need your feedback on something.

This is not, in fact, an article, but as it largely pertains to the fate of Social Deviancy as we know it, I chose to post it up here as such.

My dilemma is, whether or not I ought to join the masses in the latest online cult phenomenon that is "podcasting". To quote from the Wikipedia article on Podcasts, "A podcast is a media file which is distributed over the Internet using syndication feeds, for playback on portable media players and personal computers. Like 'radio', it can mean both the content and the method of syndication. The latter may also be termed podcasting.".

Essentially, I'm pondering, should I begin producing my sporadic rants as a verbal online "radio show"?

I'm weighing up the pros and cons in my mind. Con, I fucking hate the way my voice sounds, especially when recorded. Pro, podcasts are popular and it will likely improve traffic to the site. Con, I choke when public speaking, and will have to extensively edit every damn broadcast before airing it. Pro, my dry sarcastic humor is probably better delivered when you can hear my droll tone of voice, and hence funnier. Con, I probably won't have any better luck thinking of interesting topics to talk about any more than I do thinking of interesting things to write about. Pro, I could fill the gaps with sound gags, drunken mumbling, pre-recorded effects, and countless sponsored advertisements. Con, people will laugh at me. Pro, some people might laugh with me. Con, it could be the death of this pathetic little site. Pro, it could be the very thing it needs to finally breathe some much-needed life into it. Decisions, decisions...

It's important to note, I type very much the way I actually speak, so a transcription of one of my Podcasts would probably look a lot like a regular article. In fact, I'd most likely post transcriptions of each Podcast anyway, in case some people prefer this style of SocDev. But, yes, as most of you already know, I am, in fact, Australian born, and I do have an Australian accent. No, I do not fucking sound like Steve Irwin or Crocodile Dundee. But nor do I sound like Jed Clampett, David Letterman, or, most likely, you. Most Americans I've spoken to say I sound vaguely Californian, if anything. I do have a tendency, from years of interacting with Americans online, to Americanize my language, and use American English rather than British English in my writing. I don't know how much the difference will be noticable between my written words and my actual speech. I guess that will be half the fun of giving it a shot, perhaps.

But I digress... what I want here, is feedback. I'd like to hope that I could get a really good show of hands from every person that reads this, but since that'll be a pipe dream, I'll settle for a yes or no from all the current regular forum/chat users, and you know who you are. I want a vote on the poll, and a reply giving me your thoughts. If something like this is gonna happen, it's gotta be with the full support of the SocDev community, or it'll fall on its ass after the first broadcast and the site will suffer. I need enthusiastic feedback, and lots of it. Remember, podcasts get attention, and attention begets new users, so if you want SocDev to take off, show me a little support here.

Also, I'd really value some ideas on what sort of things I could include in my shows. Random disgruntled ranting for an hour probably won't get a lot of people tuning in. I've got some zany ideas for segments, including, if things take off, call-in segments from users via Skype, maybe an advice column where I take emails from users and solve your pathetic little problems, stuff like that. But if you have some unique ideas, I'd love to hear them!

So, speak up, SocDev! Yay or nay on the motion of Venomous the Podcaster? Don't be shy now, what do you think??
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Post by Hellmark » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:53 pm

One thing you could do, is have socdev members call in and cohost via skype. That seems to be a popular thing to do among podcasters, so they're not just talking with themselves.

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Post by Hero of the Day » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:10 pm

yeh shit a podcast would be interesting.
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Post by MP81 » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:19 pm

Podcast = iPod?

Or could we vary the formats?
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Post by Venomous » Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:41 am

MP81 wrote:Podcast = iPod?

Or could we vary the formats?
No, Podcast != iPod.

Please learn about Podcasting at Wikipedia before asking retarded questions like that, mmkay thanks. =P
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Post by seajayjay » Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:38 am

Ven. if you really do have an accent like those dudes on the vee dub commercials I'd suggest you stay with text because if you sound like the vee dub guys i would laugh my ass off from you rant of how retarded I am instead of being offended

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Post by Venomous » Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:38 am

cdoublejj wrote:Ven. if you really do have an accent like those dudes on the vee dub commercials I'd suggest you stay with text because if you sound like the vee dub guys i would laugh my ass off from you rant of how retarded I am instead of being offended
You stupid cocksucker. I don't know what fucking commercial you're talking about but I'm as certain that I don't sound like that anyway, as I am that if I saw the commercial, I would hate it as much as I hate you. So shut up.

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Post by Supernovae » Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:16 pm

It probably is long overdue that I post on Social Deviancy, let alone this thread.

Anyways, I want to openly state that I voted for the second option. And for those slow to follow, "It's a decent idea, but it depends on how you implement it. Worth a shot, though."

As a former full time and part-time pod caster myself, I have strenuously traveled down that road that my voice and opinion would be appreciated and respected by fellow and future pod casters alike. And I will tell you this, it can be a lot harder than you think, if you over think.

When I used to pod cast, I helped a friend create a website, setup the RSS feed, manage the Lib Syn account, promote and re-promote the show and to top it off it was a never-ending, seldom rewarding endeavor. But, I loved every minute of it.

One of the most strenuous activities was the editing portion of the pod cast. I used to go back and edit and remove the "umms and duh" moments that happened frequently. Then, I made sure that I was still interesting and didn't sound like a blubbering idiot on steroids. So, I took some personal advice and decided to make the show more natural. To not make the show scripted and dull.

One of the most painful realizations was that, like a guy like me, I wanted and needed instant gratification. I wanted someone to send an email and congratulate me on an Oscar winning performance. I became a man possessed by this desire to be recognized. So, I stopped performing. I stopped checking email and hid behind the keyboard allowing written text as my only form of public communication about whatever I cared about.

Now, you're probably wondering where this is all leading to. And I do have a point! Karl, I want you to amass into a bigger success then I had ever become. I want you to post your show and have no inhabitations. But, I also want you to learn from my mistakes and make some of your own.

Create an interesting show, but try to use your natural voice and not to make it scripted. If you have some "umms and duh" moments, let them shine because it creates a more likeable host. Also, don't take offense and throw the show away if it isn't a huge success or if your email inbox still shows zero. The real numbers are the increased traffic to SD and the number of downloads to your show. And, if you ever take this leap, look into a video pod cast.

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Post by Venomous » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:10 am

Finally, some detailed and thoughtful feedback on this article. It seems every time I truly and sincerely ask for my users to give me their opinions, all I get is mindless idiotic drivel. This thread is case in point. Makes me want to shut the whole fucking site down. But then one lone person will speak up and actually try to be helpful, and it keeps SocDev online for one more day... =)

Mike, thanks for your feedback, both as a friend and as an experienced ex-podcaster yourself. If I go ahead with this, I have no doubt I will be seeking your advice and expertise very regularly, especially in the beginning as I learn the ropes.

The votes seem to show that a SocDev podcast would be well-received by the existing SocDev community... even though some nutsack voted it as a lame idea but didn't have the cohones to post and say why they thought that, or even at least sign their name to their opinion. But the majority vote seems to be a resounding "Give it a go, man!" and see how it turns out.

Of course, in all fairness, I wouldn't be doing this for the six lame excuses for users who are the "regulars" (and that's a term I use loosely these days!) here... I'd be doing it to gain more attention for SocDev, and hopefully, via podcast promotion mediums like Podcast Alley, maybe get some new blood in here, hopefully end up with some regulars that will occasionally post in the forum, say something in the chat room more than one lurksnipe a day, maybe even click an ad link once in a while! {gasp!}

So yeah, thanks for the input Mike, great to hear from a seasoned podcaster. Expect me to pester you for further input as I begin to set up for my first show.

And to the person who thinks it's lame, any chance you've grown a pair and want to discuss your thoughts? I look forward to more feedback from other users here too, though I won't exactly hold my breath...
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Post by Hero of the Day » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:58 pm

You want feedback. Heres my take on it, I have no idea what the fuck you are like or how your podcast might sound. It can't hurt to give it a shot though. As for the 'regulars' I know I dont qualify, got school, an internship (unpaid job), paying job (even though it sucks donkey dick at times), and I am volunteering an increasing amount of time with a neighborhood organization. If you put out podcast I would listen to it.

You have to think if you really want to expend the effort and had something interesting to talk about (most energy on here seems to be spent dealing with CJJ and a few other occasional idiots)
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Post by Venomous » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:31 am

Thanks Jason, appreciate the feedback man. Actually, you're in my good books lately - you may hardly ever post or hang out in chat anymore, but the quality of your posts is usually better than the statistical average around here. I mean this is a perfect example - some "regulars" here STILL haven't given me some decent feedback on what they think of this idea, and others have voted but not even taken the time to actually reply at all - you've replied twice and explained in detail what you voted and why. Can't argue with those facts.

Glad to hear you'd listen if I broadcasted man, considering your schedule lately, that's a high compliment. Though I probably would only make a show about as often as I currently write an article, so tuning in wouldn't be too intrusive to anybody's schedule. =)
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Post by MP81 » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:46 am

Instead of posting about my complete lack of knowledge of what a Podcast actually is, perhaps I'll post some comprehensive feedback that is useful.

I think the podcasting would be one hell of a kick ass idea. Now that I don't have dial-up (aka - slower than a dead slug), and have this wonderful high speed internet (hopefully I keep it, I'll be pissed if we ever have to switch back), I would love to listen to the broadcasts. As stated in "Field of Dreams" to Kevin Costner, "If you build it, they will come". Well, start them up, and I will listen.
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Post by Venomous » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:57 am

That is such a good point... "If you build it, they will come"... I'm really hoping for that here, that even just me making a semi-regular podcast, even if it's not a terribly awesome one, will help get at least SOME new publicity/traffic/members to the site... hell, just FIVE new regular users would double our current active memberbase! =P

I really hope that when I build it, at least somebody new comes... I mean, it's not that I don't love you guys... I just.. don't love you guys! =P
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Post by Slick-Labia » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:05 am

I don't think I could possibly add to the verbal feedback I already gave you the other night (with a fair few beers under my belt).

Except maybe to get a cheap large diaphragm condenser mic and a cheap mixer with a couple of preamps, you'll be out maybe 250 bucks.

As good as your current mic sounds this will sound a whole load better and you'll be able to have guests talk into a second mic.

...And turn off that air-con while recording, winter's coming anyways. =P

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Post by Venomous » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:45 pm

Slick-Labia wrote:Except maybe to get a cheap large diaphragm condenser mic and a cheap mixer with a couple of preamps, you'll be out maybe 250 bucks.
For the month of March, total revenue generated by Social Deviancy to date is USD$0.66. This officially makes March one of the top five highest earning months since Social Deviancy was launched. Even if you were to add my pathetically dismal personal income to this figure, there is still no way in hell that the word "cheap" can be used to describe an outlay of $250.00 for a podcast which has even odds of catastrophically and dismally flopping after one or two broadcasts. I would, in fact, have to be a complete and utter moron to fork out that kind of money for something like that at this time, it would be similar in logic to the act of withdrawing the money in ten dollar bills, and using the cash to wipe my ass with and flush them down the toilet.
Slick-Labia wrote:As good as your current mic sounds this will sound a whole load better and you'll be able to have guests talk into a second mic.
If it sounded like a hundred virgins whispering sweet nothings into my ear, I still couldn't justify forking over a quarter of a grand for a novelty item for a risky venture which may yield me no benefit whatsoever. The microphone I have is proportional in cost to the context I planned to use it for - it cost me $0.00, which is approximately what the podcast is likely to earn me.

However, I did lash out today and buy a Logitech headset which was on special for $25.00. Even though it would take 3 years and 2 months at current income rates for SocDev to pay off even that meager investment, it's a small enough figure that I can live with it coming out of my pocket. =P And it has a "Noise Canceling Microphone", so the audio quality of my voice will no doubt be better than the freebie mic, which will be just fine to be used if there's more than one person physically in the "studio" talking. If and when the show earns me a buck or two, I'll considering paying real money for real equipment. But for a first-time podcaster's first few solo amateur shows, I think my cheapass crap is more than sufficient right now. =P
Slick-Labia wrote:...And turn off that air-con while recording, winter's coming anyways. =P
Heh, well, obviously, if I'm recording anything properly other than a half-assed demonstration/test, all background sounds will be muted, PC case silenced, AC switched off, doors and windows closed, interruptions avoided, and so on. That sort of goes with common sense, really, hehe..
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