Tourette's syndrome - the fakest disease ever?

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Tourette's syndrome - the fakest disease ever?

Post by Jackie » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:52 pm

Every now and then you hear something so stupid that you start to doubt the future of mankind, if you hadn't already lost faith in humanity. Tourette's syndrome is a perfect example. It's not the dumbest thing ever, but you will only have more reason for concern once you realize that there could be something worse than this. You see, this disease is said to make you swear involuntarily. The first reaction a sensible person would have upon hearing that, is ''Bullshit!'' What's next? Are we going to be labeled with anti-social personality disorder if we don't use twitter and facebook? I guess it is only a matter of time. We might as well start worshiping the flying spaghetti monster if we believe in afflictions that take control of our body and mind. Let's put our hands together for the psychologists that made this crap up.
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Maybe you've heard of it before. Tourette's syndrome is depicted as an affliction that makes you curse at random. Aside of the swearing, almost every single tic imaginable can be attributed to tourette's syndrome. Which makes it that much more ridiculous.

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At the time I watched this movie, I couldn't help but think what a load of bullshit this part was. ''I got tourette's syndrome that causes me to have these uncontrollable outbursts''. Yeah, right. That goes directly against all logic. Have you ever heard of anyone incapable of staying silent? Even when their life depended on it? Of course not, that would be ridiculous. Everyone can keep their mouth shut. Yes, for some of us that takes more effort. But here we are talking about a disease that makes it impossible to keep your mouth shut? Beyond retarded. But it doesn't stop there. Most tourette's sufferers even assert it's not their fault when they utter curse words, annoying sounds, and make compulsive movements; no, it's their condition.

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There was a point in my life where I would have asked myself if people really buy this. If common sense actually common these days, folks would have gotten off their seats and filed wave after wave of complaints and threats to any and all organizations that purport tourette's to be genuine. After all, a disease such as tourette's is fairly tale fantasy. Now, if it was only a fictional disease in a movie and it would be treated as such, then it wouldn't have been a problem. But things have gotten out of hand, and now kids use it as an excuse so they can curse or freak out whenever they want. Everyone treats tourette's like it's a real condition, which is why we should be really concerned.


Beware: I will bite you and pretend it's not my fault

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What a freak. Apparently this video was supposed to 'raise awareness' and 'increase tolerance'... *gag!* There are just a couple of things that caught my attention.

Observation: Watch closely and you'll see that his two upper front teeth have gotten markedly shorter by his biting tic.

Observation 2: He blurted out the word 'nigger' a few times. What a coincidence that the kids in the tourette's camp video (you'll see it soon) did too.... perhaps too much of a coincidence.

Observation 3: His brother is a faggot.

When he walked on the street doing his thing you could almost hear people thinking to themselves: ''What's his problem? Is he retarded or something?'' Then we see him strolling around in a hall where he constantly made weird sounds, but as soon as an official asked him what's his problem he stopped doing it and he explained his 'disorder' to the man. This shows he is very much capable of controlling his tics. It seems very likely that he desperately craves attention, and uses his affliction as an excuse to get noticed.

I also wonder if he keeps true to his philosophy of 'tolerance' and 'don't judge people' when terrorists, nazi's, and rapists are in question. Otherwise he would be doing all this in vain.


The affliction examined
According to the experts, tourette's comes in various flavors and degrees of severity, each one dumber and more ridiculous than the next.
But all tourette's sufferers have tics. You know, these habits some people have that make you want to slap them in the face, like excessive eye blinking, humming, hissing, barking(?), neck jerking, teeth grinding, hand flapping, etc.

However, tourette's syndrome is best known for the vocal tics. And I'm not talking about random animal sounds or unremarkable humming, but actual speech. Especially the uttering of certain phases and words that make you doubt whether this disease isn't another hoax. In particular the type of tourette's that makes you swear against your will. It is thanks to this branch of the illness that tourette's became infamous. It's certainly one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of. According to the scriptures, once you acquire the syndrome your limbs or your vocal chords will be beyond your control at arbitrary moments throughout the day. The condition is also supposed to be inherited, and the sufferer would be unable to do anything about their predicament. These are the facts according to popular belief.

Here is a video of some teenagers who have this issue.

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''Well, when I see people I sometimes say what I'm thinking about them but I don't really mean it... NIGGA! NIGGA! Like that, kind of. But I'm not racist, and I just can't help it. And I feel really guilty afterwards. NIGGA!''

The fakery drips off the whole video. In the next fragment of this documentary we see the same girl again, but this time in a clothes-store with two black women standing nearby. Predictably, she says "nigga" again. Later in the video she says "fatty" when a fat person walks by. It's too fake for words.

Honestly, this is one of these hypes that makes me disgust mankind, it's another bullshit problem showcasing how society is racing toward complete turdification. The fact that people believe this crap could actually be real is more than just an indication of mankind's stupidity - it is hard evidence.


You can't trust the experts
To better understand why tourette's is fake, you need know exactly what a tic is. Tics are better described as habits. I found a website that explains the concept quite well.

''A habit is a learned behavior that a person repeats so often that he or she begins to do it without even thinking about it. Certain habits can be helpful, like the habit of brushing your teeth before going to bed or buckling your seatbelt when you get into a car. These are habits that a person builds on purpose, to achieve a positive objective.

Thumb sucking is a common habit among children that comforts them when they feel tired, sick, or scared. This habit usually disappears on its own by the time the child is about 4 or 5 years old.

Other habits may seem to serve no particular purpose, like hair twirling. These habits often are built unknowingly. They can include behavior like thumb sucking, nail biting, or chewing on the end of a pencil. Such habits may begin as self-soothing forms of behavior and may help relieve stress. But often, long after the need for that type of soothing is outgrown, the learned habit continues. Some habits are annoying, and some can cause distress or become the focus of teasing. Still others may have harmful effects. For example, thumb sucking, which can go on for years, can cause dental problems.''


The same site describes how you unlearn a habit, but also makes the common mistake to differentiate between habits and tics, describing the latter as involuntary, uncontrollable repetitive movements and behavior. However, there is nothing that confirms any difference between habits and tics.

''there is growing evidence that OCD and these other habit-like conditions are the result of involuntary messages sent from nerves in a particular part of the brain.''

Now this is one fine example of masterfully cloaked propaganda. The problem is that if one were to develop a bad habit, you would see the same thing happening inside the brain – a specific region fires impulses that seem involuntary. But to the uninitiated, the quote above says that tourette's is caused by a physical anomaly inside the brain; an inherited affliction. However, that has not and cannot be proven with current technologies. Neurology is still in an infant state of research. Despite this, every science- and medically oriented website copy-pasted the same information, and stubbornly believes tourette's must be a real, genetic disorder. Of course, mainstream media jumped on the bandwagon too.

Here's what also has been researched and comes a lot closer to the truth.

''There is considerable evidence showing that certain tics, while seeming to be reflexes, are actually habits learned or developed during childhood and adolescence. These tics are similar to other habit disorders which are also acquired during childhood, such as hair-pulling, skin-picking or nail-biting.''

Common sense would have told us the same thing, but we don't care about that, do we? We want to know what the psychologists and researchers have to say about it, because they are the authorities on the subject. And even if they are wrong we will believe them anyway, because it's the messenger and not the actual content of the message that we care about, right?

Right.

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''Wistling is not a hobby for Roddy Hood. It is something he cannot control. Something he cannot stop. A tic. Roddy has tourette's syndrome.''

If his parents beat him with a stick I'm sure he'd stop whistling. Yes, the media isn't shy of reporting noteworthy afflictions, but they often get it all wrong, as they do in this case. Tics are learned habits, irrational actions which are often displayed by idiots and make it easy to identify them as such. Tics can be controlled and stopped at will.
Biting nails is an example of a tic. Touching, flicking and fiddling with your hair all the time is a tic (which over 50% of all women have). Most tics are very specific movements that serve no purpose. I once knew a guy who held his hand with a limp wrist under his nose, like he was sniffing it or something. People were teasing him for it, as did I. And it's a perfect example of a tic: it's an action that is irrational as it has no function, it is simply a purposeless routine or a movement that the tics' sufferer has taught himself to express.

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Let's draw a comparison. Take drug addicts. Drug abuse is a choice, a bad choice that can ruin your life, and apparently it's hard to resist once you've grown accustomed to abusing these substances. But even if it's hard, you can stop. But a lot of people don't. Instead they stay drug addicts all their life. Does that prove that they were born with a condition that makes them abuse drugs? No, absolutely not. But that's the sort of logic tourette's organizations and psychiatrists use. It's important to see through that.

Now let's have a look at how tourette's is diagnosed.

''CHARACTERIZATION OF TOURETTE’S SYNDROME
The DSM IV diagnoses people with Tourette’s only if they have both multiple motor tics and one or more vocal tics, which must be present at the same time, although not necessarily concurrently; the tics must occur many times a day (usually in bouts) nearly every day or intermittently over more than 1 year, during which time there must not have been a tic-free period of more than 3 consecutive months; the age at onset must be less than 18 years; [and] the disturbance must not be due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g. stimulants) or a general medical condition (e.g. Huntington's disease or postviral encephalitis). (4)''


So according to the 'experts', inherited afflictions are bound by time-frames and age. With such highly questionable criteria, you can't speak of a reliable analysis. Either way, they think tourette's is caused by an abnormality in the brain or nervous system. I say there's nothing wrong with these suckers other than their ignorance, considering how they let their habits develop to the point where everyone starts to notice it. Fact is, this is entirely possible and it's the most likely explanation.
But it's very annoying seeing how people who lack the willpower to control and outgrow their tics are labeled with tourette's syndrome to give them an excuse to behave like morons. These dumb pieces of waste probably started crying for special attention and fabricated the medical definition and diagnosis for their problem in the first place.

The result? Financial support for people who are so lazy and bad-mannered that they didn't even outgrew habits people normally leave behind in their childhood years. It's sad. And yes, you are paying for that with your tax money.


The control factor
As mentioned before, coprolalia (outburst of cursing and socially inappropriate speech) is the most well-known tic of tourette's syndrome. But even though the random swearing is bad enough, other varieties of tourette's are pretty ridiculous too. Think of barking, stuttering, hissing, the tendency to hurt yourself, stamping your feet on the ground, blinking your eyes excessively, etc. It is true that some people have motor tics that causes twitching or make it very difficult to control their muscles, but there is no such thing as a biological malfunction that causes the aforementioned tics. A tic is not a hardwired defect, it's a learned habit. And a twitch is nothing more than a spasm, and not a clearly controlled movement of your muscles. Controlled muscular movements are anything other than shaking or spasms.

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This video shows a girl who claims to be one of these famed tourette's sufferers. At 2:40 she starts to demonstrate her tics. She says she ''has to'' knack her knuckles, fingers, and twist her wrists. These are controlled movements. Those are not spasms. Therefore they are under your control. Such actions are rituals some folks perform because they are kind of loony. It indicates you have some serious issues with self-control, and probably your sanity as well. Here's what she said about her little problem in her own words: ''I do it because.... I don't know.'' She wouldn't be the first to develop a bad habit out of boredom, stress, or plain stupidity.

The squeaking sounds, eye rolling and shoulder shrugging she demonstrated are more examples of rituals you unconsciously choose to acquire and develop.
Another thing that stands out; the viewers requested her to demonstrate her tics as they never get to see them. So this girl says that's probably because making these videos takes up her attention. The most logical thing to conclude is that once you're bored, you start to indulge in compulsive behavior. This in turn can develop into a tic. I personally know someone who acquired a tic this way.
But then, if the tics of tourette's syndrome were really unwanted signals sent from the brain then it would bother you regardless of what you're doing. If you aren't bothered with your tics when you are busy it shows your tics are a fixable psychological problem, and not an inborn biological issue as the experts think.

Bonus points if you can detect the tic specific to her gender. She didn't mention it, but she's clearly got it.

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Unsurprisingly, a vast majority of those who believe tourette's syndrome to be real disorder think that the tics cannot be controlled. But they are wrong. In fact, there's no lack of borderline tourette's morons who admit this.

''Although the word "involuntary" is used to describe the nature of the tics, this is not entirely accurate. It would not be true to say that people with TS have absolutely no control over their tics, as though it was some type of spasm; rather, a more appropriate term would be "compelling." People with TS feel an irresistible urge to perform their tics, much like the need to scratch a mosquito bite. Some people with TS are able to hold back their tics for up to hours at a time, but this only leads to a stronger outburst of tics once they are finally allowed to be expressed.''

Immediately we have a more accurate description of what is really going on with tourette's sufferers: they feel compelled to perform their tics. Just like a fatty addicted to food, you constantly feel the urge to grab a snack and cram food into your mouth. But really, this behavior is completely under your control... everyone has probably had urges they shouldn't give in to because they're not good for us, and everyone is capable of outgrowing these tendencies.
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Yes, these guys won't stop talking about their urges. They always try to bring to your attention that they're plagued by a strong irresistible desire to perform certain routines and tics. Sounds like an addiction, right? It's still a pathetic excuse, as you always control your own actions, regardless of any urges. And if you feel the urge to do something stupid, you just stop yourself from doing it. Simple as that.

Also, if you can control your urges some of the time, you can control them all the time. Being unable to stop yourself from doing something really stupid and pointless against your will, that is simply not possible. Tourette's sufferers claim otherwise. They say they can't help it. But you have to question their sanity. Since tics can be developed, controlled and outgrown, obviously you can help it. When you're so delusional that you can't even see the difference between an actual shortcoming or affliction of your body and your own haphazard antics, you are close to insanity.

''Tics are usually considered to be semi-voluntary. People actually have a certain amount of control over their tics; in most cases, they can resist or delay them. Some people are able to control their tics through mental discipline and a calm attitude.''

Again, we see the truth, directly from the very perpetrators of the scam itself. Take a guess how this information was obtained? It's simple, really. Researchers inquired tourette's sufferers about their tics, and asked how they experience their disorder and what they feel. So this info basically comes straight from tic-suffering people. All these researchers did was write up whatever the tourette's sufferers thought and felt. But that doesn't give you all the answers.
Realistically speaking they most certainly weren't trying hard enough to keep their tics under control; that's the obvious result of lacking the insight and knowledge to understand the nature of their behavior. So while they belief ''in most cases, they can resist or delay'' tics, in truth they simply lack willpower. It's just like an addiction. Once a bad habit grows on you, it will be hard to stop. It is perfectly possible to forfeit compulsive behavior though, you just have to be strong of mind. I know. I once had tic too, a bad habit. All that is preventing you from stopping your tics is a lack of willpower. So don't be such a weak-minded dick and take responsibility for your own mistakes.


You have tourette's, and tourette's has you
All of the trademark tourette's tics are idiotic and degrading. Coprolalia (random 'involuntary' cursing and socially unacceptable speech) still stands out as the most idiotic and fake one. But the thing is, you can have coprolalia or any other tic without having tourette's. This is another point that rings alarm bells, or at the very least should provoke you to ask questions. Because why is that? Why can you have these ridiculous disorders and not have tourette's?
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The answer is about as unclear, unsatisfactory and suspicious as tourette's and its supporters are: it simply doesn't meet the official diagnosis. And the official diagnosis isn't based an any empirical evidence, but rather the opinions of psychiatrists and psychologists. We are just supposed to believe them and appeal to their authority. Sadly most people do so carelessly.

''Coprolalia is involuntary swearing or the involuntary utterance of obscene words or socially inappropriate and derogatory remarks''

No, it's not involuntary. Everyone has control over what they say. You can always stop yourself from swearing. I seriously wonder what has gotten into the heads of these people to come up with such a preposterous fabrication. What, is there no such thing as free will anymore? Whatever you've got, you can resist your urges always. Hard to control is not the same as beyond your control. It's all in your head.

I can relate. Whenever I see a dumb lard I tend to feel a very strong, irresistible urge to punch that person in the face. However, I know that sort of thing would get me in trouble, so if I concentrate hard and use my willpower I can refrain from doing what's right and keep my fist at ease. The sensation you experience may be similar to withdrawal symptoms, you may feel like you need to give in to the voice inside your head that says you have to do it, but whether you give in to that voice is entirely and solely your own choice. You can use all the excuses you want, fact remains that your actions are fully within your control. If you disagree, it's time for an appointment with the shrink.

Same story for tourette's. You're not born with a condition, you adopted a behavior. There's no disorder that makes you say or do things against your will. That's like saying there's an illness which makes you rape children or beat up strangers against you will. If you feel a very strong urge to do such things, clearly deep down that's really what you want. Why? It's probably because you're a deranged fool who needs help. Either way you're a liar, because if your tics were really involuntary you would seek therapy and unlearn your habits and desires. Otherwise you're just imagining that you have an illness.


Treatment
So. Hypothetically. You have a kid who has tourette's, and it's not going away on its own? Of course you want to do something about it. Don't worry, it's entirely curable... you may need to smack your kid repeatedly to stop it from behaving improperly, but if you are diligent and persistant, your kid will eventually give up on its deviant behavior. Don't forget he or she probably picked it up from friends, the TV, or the internet, and it's probably just a call for attention.
However, perhaps the undesirable behavior doesn't stop even after prolonged corrective punishment. In that case I would recommend the usage of a contraption capable of releasing painful, but non-lethal electrical jolts. Tie the patient up into this contraption, then whenever he starts expressing his tics you give him a jolt. Your kid will be cured within 1-3 days guaranteed. It should do the trick on colleagues and relatives as well.


Final conclusion
The mental state of citizens today would make me cry if I was an overly emotional messed up dumbass, like some of the people from the new generation tend to be. But instead, it just make me angry.

More and more I'm getting the impression that practically no one can think on their own anymore. When a friend, coworker, or some program on TV starts talking about a disorder like tourette's, it should instantly strike you as fake. People ought to be that rational. But alas, they're not. No, instead they embrace all mental disorders and worship the psychopaths who diagnose them unquestioned.

Let's not forget, these 'inherited' tics are identical to learned habits, in every measurable and objectively verifiable way. That's not a coincidence. They are learned habits. But psychiatrists say it's a biological disease and label their patients with a disorder with a fancy name-tag so that they have a living too. You do have to pay them for their tests, advice and medicines, after all...

Okay, let's look at one final example of the stupidity of tourette's 'victims'.

''When walking, sometimes I would suddenly become very aware of how hard my feet were hitting the ground. If one hit the ground too hard, on my next step I would have to tap the ground twice with my other foot, to make a sort of balance. Or if I stumbled or my foot slid instead of landing flat, I'd have to do the same thing. Sometimes it would get to the point where I'd have to stop walking and tap my feet until the balance had been restored, and only then could I walk again without that niggling feeling like something was wrong inside me.''

As you are reading this, perhaps it's starting to become obvious what is actually happening with tourette's sufferers. Teenagers and adults who believe they have this disease aren't afraid to post videos, blogs and insightful information of their idiocy online, and it is thanks to their attention-whoring behavior that we can see how the whole thing is only becoming more and more suspicious. These crybabies are clearly faking it. And they often say that making certain movements ''feels right'', so obviously they do it a lot. If you are a bored teenager or kid you've probably developed a habit or tic that involved making certain movements or weird sounds, and sooner or later it may actually ''feel good''. Soon you'll be repeating the tic so often, you'll start to miss it when you aren't doing it, and your brain tells you to do it again, similar to an addiction. As you keep repeating your lame habits more, your withdrawal symptoms become worse and before you know it you don't have the strength of mind to quit you behavior anymore. Then you'll go visit a psychologist, who tells you that you've got tourette's syndrome and there's nothing you can do about it, but they'll give you medication anyway which worsens your health and doesn't do anything to stop your tics. After a period of depression, you'll tell yourself that you've accepted your self-created tics, and you'll spread the word about your imaginary affliction. As a result, more people become infected by your stupidity. They copy your behavior and start to acquire comparable symptoms, and the circle is completed.

Well, this is only a theory, I must admit. But it is a good one. It's called mass hysteria. It happened before, and it will happen again, as history repeats itself.

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''Not contagious. If I shake your hand you're not going to get tourette's.''

Uh-huh. Actually it is contagious. We could say that mobile phone addiction isn't contagious either, but that would be deceitful because even people with weak minds are well aware of the phenomenon. The more of a conformist you are the easier you'll take over a certain behavior. Smartphone addiction is now a world-wide epidemic. Tourette's is spreading fast too. You can compare it to a contagious disease, except there is no physical cause, it's psychological. Once something becomes popular it will spead all over the place, and most people are all too susceptible to such stimulus.

People resemble sheep. Maybe we should start thinking about living among the cattle.

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So there you have it. Tourette's is too retarded to be real. It's bullshit. So if you are a tourette's sufferer, time to get a grip on yourself and discard your bad habits. Stop being an attention whore who spreads lies about your fake disorder, and tell the people who share your fate to do the same.

Oh, and I almost forgot. The infamous tourette's guy, who has been particularly amusing to intellectually challenged Americans, eventually gave up on his act. He was deliberately faking everything. He got tired of it and killed himself. Or so they say. He probably feigned his own death to live in some place quiet so he wouldn't be forced to fake his disorder all the time.

I reckon there are quite a few people like him, who also knowingly fake tourette's syndrome. I'm not even sure if that's more pathetic than acquiring a tic by accident and not knowing that you brought it on yourself. Either way there should be no special treatment for these people, and they should get no sympathy.
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desikitteh

Post by desikitteh » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:04 am

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how the fuck do you face yourself in the mirror in the morning? or are you just too stupid to find it? there's enough stigma around neurological conditions (as well as other disabilities, illnesses...) without fucksticks like you adding to it. there are at least 2 members of the community with tourette syndrome, one of them being me. and let me tell you, i fucking HATE not being able to control the sounds i make in my throat just slightly more than i hate arseholes like you who make life harder with your bullshit. oh, and special treatment? are you fucking kidding?? how is being stared at and excluded from job opportunities because part of your brain is misfiring special treatment? you really have no idea what you're talking about.

and as to your suggestions of using violence to "fix" it? i hope someone drops you down a very deep dark hole. and leaves you there. even grumpy cat would be happy if that happened.

seriously. go fuck yourself.

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Post by Venomous » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:47 am

The other member of this community with Tourette's is me, and I'm the guy who pays your salary... or... something.

If you're going to piss on Tourette's, you may as well piss on depression, anxiety, OCD, ADHD, schizophrenia, MPD, even autism and Aspergers. Hell, why not throw the entire concept of neurological disorders under the bus? If it ain't bleeding, dripping with pus, or falling off, then you're faking it.

I can't speak for everybody, and I don't doubt that maybe there are people out there who cry Tourette's to explain their coprolalia or echolalia. But I sure as hell don't want my tics to gain attention. I hate them. I'd give almost anything to not have them. I try my hardest to not display them, and I even take powerful medication to suppress them. My life would have turned out so much better if I didn't have TS.

And as for beating it out of us? Been there, tried that. My father used to kick my ass when I ticked, and you know what? It didn't fucking help. It just made me stress more, which incidentally made my tics worse, and left me with a powerful resentment of my father until and long after the day he died.

I'd like to know, do you actually have any evidence - medical, scientific, or any kind of fact - to support your notion that TS "must" be fake? Or do you just figure that because tics, especially vocal tics and coprolalia, look and sound preposterous that it simple "can't" be real? That's pretty weak. I've never heard voices in my head, but I'm not going to piss all over people with schizophrenia just because I think it's strange and can't personally relate to it.

I wish you could experience TS just for a day, or a week, and preferably while at school, work, or otherwise in a public place. You'd probably delete this article if you could. The whole concept of getting attention for TS is a very modern one. When I was a kid, Tourette's was barely known, because people like me wanted anything but attention. Once in high school I was asked by a teacher to stand up in front of my class and explain Tourette's to them, like these kids do on the YouTubes today. I told them with no doubt to go and fuck themselves. I couldn't think of anything worse in the world. I got teased, picked up, humiliated, beaten up, you name it, just for having some mild tics, why the fuck would I want to get up and explain to the world that I was a freak?

I should point out, my TS tics are very mild compared to most sufferers. I don't have coprolalia, or echolalia, in fact my tics aren't speech-related whatsoever, and I can't even imagine how horrible it would be to have those sorts of tics. But my motor tics are bad enough that I've wrecked my back and neck, I can't work a "day job", and I take copious amounts of painkillers every day just to function. Does that sound like something I would do voluntarily, or to "get attention"?

In closing, as desi said, please go fuck yourself. As I said to you via PM, I let this article through because I run a free speech website, and it would be hypocritical of me to let you say that Obama is a racist pedophile nigger faggot, and then cry foul when you talk about something that's actually close to home for me. But I don't agree with it. And I only pray that anybody who reads this article accepts it for the trollbait it is and responds accordingly. =)
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Post by Jackie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:58 pm

With only three members, including the admin, we're hardly a 'community'. Say, are you an old member by any chance, desikitteh? I seriously doubt anyone outside of social deviancy has seen this article already. Your username also looks familiar to me.
oh, and special treatment? are you fucking kidding?? how is being stared at and excluded from job opportunities because part of your brain is misfiring special treatment?
I was referring to special privileges, rights, and financial support.
If you're going to piss on Tourette's, you may as well piss on depression, anxiety, OCD, ADHD, schizophrenia, MPD, even autism and Aspergers. Hell, why not throw the entire concept of neurological disorders under the bus? If it ain't bleeding, dripping with pus, or falling off, then you're faking it.
You're absolutely right. Actually I am going to do just that in one or more future articles. I have a problem with each one of those afflictions and the psychiatric industry in its entirety. So rest assured, no one will be spared.
I'd like to know, do you actually have any evidence - medical, scientific, or any kind of fact - to support your notion that TS "must" be fake? Or do you just figure that because tics, especially vocal tics and coprolalia, look and sound preposterous that it simple "can't" be real? That's pretty weak.
The burden of prove does not lie with me, because I'm not the one who created the diagnosis and definition of the disorder. It's up to tourette's sufferers to provide evidence. You guys say that the affliction exists, so it's up to you to prove me wrong. Strictly speaking you can't disprove something if it hasn't been proven yet. That's like trying to disprove the existence of a god.
Still, I had to do extensive research to write this article. I read what research has shown about tourette's syndrome, and I reported no more than I really needed to for this submission. Again, I figured I don't actually have to prove anything. But I'll do it anyway in an upcoming article. Basically everything you need to know is already here.
I wish you could experience TS just for a day, or a week, and preferably while at school, work, or otherwise in a public place. You'd probably delete this article if you could.
No. I don't shun topics, even if they are close and personal to me. On the contrary, I would only have made it more offensive. If I was stupid enough to develop such idiotic tics, or inherit them, I would owe it to myself and the betterment of mankind to bash the hell out of my disorder, and to remind other people to loath it too.
I should point out, my TS tics are very mild compared to most sufferers. I don't have coprolalia, or echolalia, in fact my tics aren't speech-related whatsoever, and I can't even imagine how horrible it would be to have those sorts of tics. But my motor tics are bad enough that I've wrecked my back and neck, I can't work a "day job", and I take copious amounts of painkillers every day just to function. Does that sound like something I would do voluntarily, or to "get attention"?
Sounds to me like you are not suffering from tics, but twitches. And if you need to take medication to kill the pain, it's not mild at all. Most tourette's sufferers can function just fine in every aspect of their life, and aren't affected by their tics in any significant way. That's the general consensus in the tourette's community. Only a small percentage is really debilitated by their tics, from what they say.
As I said to you via PM, I let this article through because I run a free speech website, and it would be hypocritical of me to let you say that Obama is a racist pedophile nigger faggot, and then cry foul when you talk about something that's actually close to home for me. But I don't agree with it.
I know, I am grateful that you allow the rancidness and controversial nature of my articles, because believe me, I know all too well that's not something to take for granted.

Anyway... fuck you both too.

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Post by Jackie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:25 pm

Oh, I almost forgot. Now that you've mentioned my salary, Ven, I think it's time for a raise. Don't you agree?

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Post by Venomous » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:41 am

Jackie wrote:Oh, I almost forgot. Now that you've mentioned my salary, Ven, I think it's time for a raise. Don't you agree?
Sure thing, good idea. How about I pay you 200% of what I pay you currently? That's a fair raise don't you think? ;)
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Post by Jackie » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:52 pm

You're too generous, man. It's a deal.

The other day I saw another obvious case of someone who hides behind tourette's to cover the fact that he's just an asshole.

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Although a lot more people manage to recognize that this particular case has nothing to do with any illness, there's still a disturbingly high percentage that buys it anyway. Even a child would understand it's fake. Christ, people are so dumb these days.


Side note on the tourette's camp video. One of the teens said ''Jen gives head''. You don't say things like that at random. You say it because you are bad-mannered. Since it requires thought to express, it's not related to the nervous system, and it's not even a tic.

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Secondly, watch the girl at 1:00. Just from the way she talks you can tell this girl has problems.

''We use swears like 'nigger' and stuff. Big words, you know.''

She doesn't speak like a decent child. She talks very uncivilized, typical of kids who are raised by anti-social, careless parents who instead of rectifying deviant behavior - like cursing - might even simulate them to curse instead.

Well, that's my theory. I can't know for sure. But it all fits, and it's just a little too suspicious.

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Post by Venomous » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:19 pm

I hate to admit it, but I do see your point. I've never understood coprolalia, but I try not to trash things I don't understand. Still, to tic "nigger" or "Jen gives head", these must be acquired concepts - if the person didn't know what a nigger was, or what giving head was, would they say something else instead? I also wonder, I've never seen a black person with Tourette's, but would they still shout "nigger"? I can see that kid getting shot or stabbed by the time he's a teenager. It's one thing to make uncontrollable random vocal noises, but to actually form words, which incidentally ALWAYS happen to what society considers "bad" or curse words, seems to me whole 'nother monkey. Have you ever heard a Tourette's kid shout "flower" or "orange"? I haven't.

Again, I'm reluctant to agree with you. I'd hate for somebody who legitimately has TS like mine to stumble through here and think I actually agree with your "TS is fake" bullshit. =) But having little to no experience with it myself, I admit a certain skeptical curiosity to what coprolalia is all about.

On a side note, I've been without my pills - both my TS meds, and my painkillers - for several days now, and my tics are up the wazoo, as they say. I was awake for 36 hours, lying in bed in agony, uncontrollably twitching away, before I finally exhausted myself enough to pass out. My muscles are killing me, and it's difficult to calm myself enough to not tic. Which brings up another point you queried - yes, TS sufferers can control their tics for a short time, but it's like hitting pause rather than stop, and then when you unpause, you ramp up the play speed to 3x playback. Unless you're just trying to buy time until you fall asleep, or get through a social situation or something, it generally isn't worth the hassle.

Anyways, I've restocked my TS meds now, so hopefully I should get something of a decent night's sleep tonight. So, goodnight! =)
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Post by Jackie » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:45 pm

Most websites that provide information about TS agree that people with coprolalia utter the most obscene and offensive words simply because it's taboo. That's exactly what makes these words so irresistible to use, so the sufferers would be unable to refrain themselves. Also, I like how these sites alway say that the coprolalia doesn't reflect what the actual person beliefs. So when someone has a tic that involves racist slurs, he would actually not be racist. According to TS communities, that is.

I'm not sure what's more sad: this explanation, or that people actually belief it.

You know what else is suspicious about coprolalia? According to wikipedia (if I remember correctly) TS people who are born deaf and thus can't produce curse words, instead 'curse' by making random offensive and inappropriate gestures.

Which is a learned habit. It can't be due to an abnormality of the nervous system or brain. Why? Let's explain with a simple, practical example. If you rip a piece of paper in dozens of small pieces, and then throw all the pieces in the air, is there any chance that they coincidentally form a clearly recognizable shape like a house, a car, or an animal when they fall on the ground?

No. That doesn't happen, even if you tried it a billion times. You'd have to lay the pieces yourself to make that happen. And that is why neurological disorders don't cause tics, because tics don't randomly appear out of nowhere. They have to be built. They are human creations, not creations of nature.

The TS communities confirms this too. They all agree that their tics are developed, usually during childhood. There is never any mention of something like a TS baby, that twitches with its neck (or any other body part) from the moment it's born. If that was the case, then I would be inclined to belief that tourette's is indeed inherited or biological in nature. Too bad for them, but they're shooting themselves in the foot. Or is it feet? Derp...


While I mentioned this in the article, maybe I should have been a little clearer about it. I don't deny the existence of neurological disorders. I just draw a line between a real biological affliction and habit disorders that are created by patients themselves.

If people say that their affliction is affected by their mood or they can exert control over their tics, then to me, it falls in the category of fake or self-made. Desikitteh is a good example of this. I believe she can control and discard her tics. Perhaps she's simply too dumb or weak to pull it off? Who knows. Though I'm still wondering what kind of dark hole that slimy worm crawled out of, and how she ended up here.

Venomous, while your story sounds convincing, but if you can control your twitches to some extent, then I don't believe your have a real disorder either.

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Post by Tyranny » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:29 pm

it's a case of some fucked up douchebags ruining it for the legit people out there. happens in all walks of life, all conditions, all statuses (statii?). Tourette's is real. apart from V (who I know personally and have spent an extensive amount of time with) I've known another girl from school and she had the swearing and grunting tics. lovely girl as long as she was on her meds and kept stress-free. don't know if it's cortisol overload or what but she would even grit her jaw so hard that her teeth would practically whistle as she ground them. and this was a young girl who had nothing to gain by being ill. so you cannot tell me that all these disorders aren't real.

just pay out on the fucksticks who ruin it for everyone else. we're all mental here. :p

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Post by Venomous » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:15 pm

Man, I don't claim to know much about medical science at all, but I know my own body. Maybe Tourette's is bullshit, but I have small random tics that I don't like, don't want, didn't invent myself, and would get rid of forever if somebody could tell me how.

I also have non-specific bowel troubles (nothing shows up with a colonoscopy, so they just label it "Irritable Bowel Syndrome"), chronic back pain (nothing shows up on x-rays, CTs or MRIs), diabetes (I don't feel anything but a glucometer says my blood sugar is over 7.0, so they say that's diabetes) and a host of other shit. I can't prove any of it. Especially not to a skeptic. But I know what I feel, and I don't like any of it. To think that as a child I simply started making up tics because I enjoyed making my mother cry and have my father beat me stupid, is nothing short of ridiculous. What child would put themselves through that? What adult would intentionally stigmatize themselves in society by deliberately faking "retard" if they didn't need to?

I'm going to have to call Mexican stand-off. You don't believe I have a disorder, and I don't know what else to call it. So, yeah... =)
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Post by Tyranny » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:17 pm

yeah. I'm way too old and mature to shout 'fuck you, you're wrong' any more. and I'm not that ignorant either to just let someone wander around spouting shit, either. a lot of the argument is valid. I am simply stating that it doesn't apply to everyone. *shrug*

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Post by spirochete » Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:59 am

The people I know and have seen with Tourettes clearly don't enjoy it. A while ago, I saw a guy in a shopping centre drinking a coffee. Every now and then, he would shout "obbydobbyobbydobbdobby" while vigorously scratching the side of his head. I found it interesting, and I recorded some of it on my voice recorder app. I looked around at all the people who looked at him strangely after his tic, and also looked at his face in reaction to the stares. He looked so embarrassed by it. When I got up and walked past him, I had a quick glance at the part of his head that he was scratching during his tic. The area was red and scratched up, and he was clearly missing hair from the area.

I listened to the recording I made at a later date, and noticed the tics had a very similar structure. I went into a wave editor, and looked at the waveform of two tics I had placed next to each other, and noticed that they were very near identical.

They went for almost the exact same length (down to less than half a second), and the volume was so close in consistency between them that I couldn't identify a difference.

Also, even the most practiced musicians, stage performers, comedians, radio hosts, etc. cannot sound exactly the same when they retell the same joke, re-read the same headline, or play their famous song for the 400th time.

You just can't recreate that consistency off your own bat without something else in play.

A friend I have openly talks about his tourettes if it comes up in conversation. I should point out that they also have very specific and general OCD, and depression. The issues he has interact strongly with each other, and he has an obvious tone of disappointment and frustration in his voice when he talks about it.

Another thing to mention is that most children aren't exposed to, or don't hear about, tourettes as children, yet they develop tics anyway.

I have another friend who is a TS sufferer with loud vocal tics, and he lives by himself. I once came over unannounced, and I could hear him tic-ing loudly in the back room of the house. I had to go round the back and knock to let him know I was there. What benefit would he have for doing tics by himself, when no-one else would have been there to hear it?

To accuse anyone to fabricate suffering from this syndrome, which causes so much malcontent, frustration and embarrassment, is very far-fetched. More accurately, it is ignorant and moronic.
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