Babies are disgusting

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Babies are disgusting

Post by Jackie » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:02 am

You're walking around the mall, buying groceries as usual. Everything is well and you're in a good mood until suddenly you hear a blood-boiling, ear-shattering sound. Quickly you turn around and see a women pushing a pram with an infant, telling her baby to calm down. You are instantly filled with utmost hatred and the desire to kill. You want to kick the infant in the face. And you want to break the mother's legs. You know you need to get away from there before you're really gonna do it.

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Ahh... what would the world be without babies? Well, it would be at least 2% better.

The Hollowood stereotype of a happy family with a baby is a classic, and has fooled everyone for ages. There's a social stigma about disliking babies. You are not supposed to say you don't like them, because it's taboo. This is most unfortunate, because a lot of people find the very idea of an infant utterly repulsive, but they often choose to hide their true feelings out of fear of what others may think.

"I hate it when I see some lame couple walking down the street, pushing a baby in a stroller. Just once I'd like to run up to them, grab the baby by it's feet, and smash it's head against the curb as hard as I could. The look on their faces would almost be worth the prison time. Same goes for people who have a baby seat mounted on the back of their ten-speeds. It would bring me such joy to hit them with my car. The exact moment when the baby's head strikes the pavement would be like the punchline of a really funny joke."

See, this is why the internet is great. It's one of the only outlets where people can still be honest and express how they really feel. It is actually thanks to the internet that we can learn just how much babies are ruining people's lives, because online there's no pressure to sugarcoat the truth. The revelation I'm about to uncover may be considered either shocking or refreshing depending on what you already know.


Babies are ugly
Don't you hate it when everyone gathers around a baby and they all say "Oh, how cute!" This whole 'babies are cute' mentality is most likely just another form of political correctness, because they are uglier and more revolting than spiders. I'd actually sooner consider petting a tarantula than an infant. Newborn babies don't look anything like a spider of course, they more resemble old men, worms, or aliens. They are fat, wrinkled, butt-ugly things. Don't get me wrong, I think kittens and puppies are adorable. But babies? They're nasty. They are dumb, make stupid sounds, and they are ridiculously filthy.

How can anyone say otherwise? It's all self-deception, and no one has the guts to speak the truth. A mother with a newborn baby is typically flying on cloud nine, blinded by the joy of her newborn child. When parents are so euphoric, nothing will kick them out of their drugged-like state of joyfulness. However, after this period is over they will soon learn the hard way of the horrors of taking care of a baby. When they spend all of their free time cleaning, feeding, buying baby products and trying to calm the baby down, they can enjoy 15 minutes of sleep at the end of the day. The rest of the night is spent lying awake, listening to the bawling of their infant, or their futile attempts to make the baby quiet. This is the next stage of parenthood, which is where a psychological defense mechanism makes overtime: denial. Denial of the agony, the sacrifices, and the loss of your free time; your money; your health, and your happiness. The sufferers, AKA the 'happy parents', must fool themselves to believe that it's all worth it, otherwise they will lose their mind for sure. This self-deception grows so strong that the parents will begin to think backwards and in a highly unrealistic, almost dream-like state of mind. They go into this phase of mental delusion where they imagine that their baby is beautiful, when it's actually ugly as a troll.

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This is what parents see when they look at their baby.

A rather ugly specimen, for sure. Still, perhaps you have succumbed to social conditioning and looking at this picture only makes you think "Oh, but this ain't so bad, babies look kind of nice." Well, then I've got a surprise for you. It's fake; you are looking at a photoshopped image. Real babies look more like bloated puss-filled worms that crawled out of a dark slimy hole. Wanna see how this baby looks without photoshop enhancements?

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Not so cute now, huh? Sorry if this triggers your barf reflex, but I need to get the point across. But imagine if you are the owner of such a such a vile creature, and still your friends are all like "he/she looks so cute!" Obviously they are so full of crap. They too have been blinded by the mental illness that makes you view the infant through pink goggles, so they will try to be overly positive and complementary, or simply lie and say that the baby is pretty when it's obviously an unsightly gnome. It's a disease!
And if that wasn't bad enough, many modern parents post a truckload of pictures of their ugly babies online, so they gross out anyone who isn't delusional as well. Some even photoshop the images before uploading, thus explaining the falsehood that there is such a thing as a pretty baby.

Luckily, for this last particular problem there is a solution. A man with a good heart made a convinient plug-in to block these ghastly images and their fake counterparts and replaces them with something more appealing, like kittens and puppies. This plugin is called unbaby.me. Install it ASAP, it may save your life one day.


Cover your ears
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The noise of crying babies is consistently rated as one of the most annoying sounds in the world. Some researchers think babies cry intentionally annoying. And a lot of researchers also think babies do it just to get attention. So now you know what it means when a baby cries. Basically, that wailing can be translated as: "Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Give me want I want! Nooooowwww!"

...yup. Rather than fulfilling the demands of these manipulative blubbermidgets, you should correct this behavior instead. With a shock collar for example. Especially one that automatically activates when the sound goes over a certain decibel level.

The undeniable fact of the matter is babies are extremely noisy. Typically their crying is somewhere between 100-130 decibels, rivaling the loudness of a yet-fighter. I mean really... WHAT THE HELL?! That is far above the safe threshold. Babies cry so loud, they actually cause ear-damage to other people and themselves.

If that doesn't give away that people are far too tolerant of the crying of babies, nothing will. Also, it proofs that babies are dysfunctional, self-destructive life forms.
It's astonishing how there are no products on the market that allow you to conveniently cover the mouth of a baby. Perhaps even more unbelievable is the fact that apartments don't need to be soundproof from their screaming, or at least that someone with a baby should be obligated to make or buy a soundproof box to put them in so they don't cause any disturbance.

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There are useless products like this facial flex on the market but there is no product like some sort of silencing muzzle for babies? Seriously...
I think whenever any mother or father with a baby goes into a shop, theater, or any other public place, the usage of such a muzzle should be mandatory. So why hasn't this happened yet? I know why. Because it's considered 'inhumane'. Blah! Well, parents could also make-shift their own solution. I'd say any parent that goes into public with their baby should take a roll of duct tape with them so they can tape off their child's mouth when need to. The only problem is, there's a good chance somebody will inform child services and they'll take your baby away, because apparently that is bad parenting. They call these sort of resourceful solutions inhumane and cruel.

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Although a screaming baby on itself is already very annoying outside, it's the worst on a bus, train or airplane, because then you've got nowhere to escape the agonizing crying.
Here's an example. On an airplane trip, a whore of a mother tells her fellow passengers to wear earplugs if they're bothered with her horrible screaming baby. She claims to have tried everything to shut up her offspring. But she is lying. Did she ever tried stuffing a sock in the baby's mouth and taping it off with duct tape? Did she ever thought about using chloroform to put it to sleep? Has she considered to request sound-proof boxes for public transport and airplanes to deal with these kind of situations? No, no and no. And for that reason, these kind of people should have a set of only two choices: don't take your infant with you, or make it quiet at any cost, otherwise you and your stinking baby will be kicked off, and you'll get reported for public disturbance. There is no reason why people shouldn't demand crying babies in public to be outlawed.


Evolution, where are you?
Just think about it. Isn't it strange how no one really seems to be aware of the fact that only human babies make such an extremely loud racket when they cry? There really isn't any kind of animal baby that does this.
Ask yourself: if it requires a baby to scream loud enough that it gives you ear damage before you do something to help it, what does that say about the way parents have acted throughout the ages? Answer: it suggests they have been rather careless. So this means babies cry like a pig because we ALLOWED them to. Had we not tolerated for them to scream at the top of their lungs -- i.e. had we killed those that cry a lot -- we wouldn't have to endure their bawling today. This speaks volumes about the disgusting tolerance of parents (and anyone else for that matter) for all the wrong things, and their indifference for what is important.

<A target="_blank" a href="http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b49 ... .jpg"><img src="http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b49 ... a490d3.jpg" height="150" border="0" hspace="10" vspace="10" align="left"></a><A target="_blank" a href="http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b49 ... .jpg"><img src="http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b49 ... eb2eb5.jpg" height="150" border="0" hspace="10" vspace="10" align="right"></a>Besides mutilating your ears, babies are extremely gross. If they aren't cleaned every half hour, they'll be covered in their own shit, piss, snot, drool and vomit in no time. It's extremely filthy. Of course you cannot expect manners from babies, but you can conclude that the reason why they are so disgusting is because of bad parenting. Mothers cleaned and helped them too much, and now they have devolved into lazy, filthy factories of bodily fluids. They drool uncontrollably, shit all over your walls and they piss in your face. No, there is nothing normal about that, contrary to what we were taught to believe. Animal babies don't drool non-stop. And they instinctively bend over and keep their mouth down when they throw up(which they don't do nearly as often because it's VERY UNHEALTHY). Their nose does not leak like a broken faucet 24/7. Also, when they defecate or urinate they don't soil themselves.

The fact of the matter is no animal baby is so dependent on its parents, or so slow to develop compared to a human baby. Kittens and puppies are housebroke within weeks. Usually you can expect them to walk within days or hours. Antelopes or gazelles can walk instantly, and are able to run after a few hours. With human babies that takes two or three years, sometimes even more.
If you start to think about it, it really is absurd how long babies stay vulnerable and completely useless. The amount of time and effort required to make a baby somewhat independent transcends far beyond reasonable and realistic boundaries. We cannot deem ourselves as human beings superior to animals if they manage to develop and mature so much faster.

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Babies are not worth it
You have probably been in the same kind of situation before. When you're visiting a friend or kin who have their newborn baby lying in a crib, the parents seem to expect you to fawn over and look at their hellspawn like you're really interested. I'd rather look at a blank wall. Babies are just too unappealing to look directly at. Their head is too large, and their limbs too small. They are wrinkled and too fat. They just look vulgar. With that in mind, the only time I would enjoy looking at one is when I'm allowed to punch it.

I mean, imagine the horror when you're visiting friends or acquaintances with a newborn child, and they ask you if you want to hold their baby. Gross. I guess there's only thing to do in that kind of situation. Saying 'no' is impolite, so even if you hate babies to death, you have to consider the potential consequences like losing your friends' or family's respect.

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It is not uncommon to encounter couples with a newborn baby who are full of themselves and have this air of superiority over them, who think they are so much better than you just because they have a baby. They are the biggest problem and the primary source of the baby madness we have to endure whenever a bloated woman squeezed out another screaming, revolting worm from her birth canal. I'd almost want to lobby for a hospital that is specialized in pushing the babies back to where they came from. It's that bad. Anything to prevent another lost generation.

These kind of mom's and dad's are known as self-important parents:

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And then there are adults who make the whole baby-scene even worse.
You know these assholes who make dumb faces and make retarded sounds such as "coochie coochie coo!" as if they actually are retarded for the baby's entertainment? They are also a big contributor to the baby hype. Babies are bad enough on their own, the last thing we need is for anyone to add to the insanity. But it gets even worse when these shitheads tard out around sucklings.

It's assholes like them, as well as self-serving parents, who spread myths like "having a baby is the greatest thing to ever happen to you" and "you don't know love until you had a baby" or "you're not a valid person until you had a child". These sort of lies cause major trauma's to parents and kids, because people have children expecting it to be a heavenly experience full of love and roses. In reality it is hell on earth for most parents. Having a child is one of the most demanding things in existence, and unless you are fully and totally committed to it, you will hate your life, and forever regret the choice you made. It is for this reason that these idiots need to be told that nine out of ten parents hate their kids and vice versa, and that parenthood is not for everyone. In fact, it is something very few people are cut out for. Punch these dickheads in the face if you must, they need to piss off.

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I've changed my mind; playing with babies can be fun!</div>

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But one thing is for sure: a lot of people -- even if they're a minority -- don't like babies. And they often feel the pressure of society to conform and pretend to like them anyway. Because if they don't, their friends will be like: "What is wrong with you?"

But there is nothing wrong with you just because you don't find babies interesting or cute. Because frankly, they're not. It's actually rather abnormal to like babies, because there really isn't anything to like about them. They have no redeeming qualities at all. They are extremely selfish and filthy, they stink, they make stupid sounds and they're annoying. They don't do anything useful, all they really are is a burden, and a rather heavy one. Which brings me to my next point...




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Coochie Coochie Coo! Here little baby, I've got a nice cobra for you to play with!</div>


Thinking of having a baby? Think again
Maybe you've considered having a baby once. Maybe you're thinking about it now. If so, maybe you should ask yourself if you really wish to raise a child in this horribly fucked-up world? You don't actually want to do that, do you?

Even if you are psychopathic and careless enough to do it anyway, a few issues may stand in the way of your choice.
  • <A target="_blank" a href="http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b49 ... .jpg"><img src="http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b49 ... 9093d2.jpg" height="350" border="0" hspace="10" vspace="10" align="right"></a>First of all keep in mind a pregnant woman is very repulsive, and among the least attractive things in the world for any man. So if you like how you look, you don't want to get pregnant. Ever. A woman's body changes during and after pregnancy. If you like saggy boobs, fatness, an overstretched vagina that will never satisfy your sex life anymore, as well as looking 20+ years older with wrinkles in your face and bags under your eyes, pregnancy is what you want. Otherwise give up on the idea now, because these changes are permanent.
  • Take a guess how much time it takes to raise a baby? All. Yes, that's right. No more free time. No more time for yourself. No more time for things YOU like. All your attention will have to be devoted to your baby. It will take all your energy too, so be prepared to be constrained, very tired, and cranky on top.
  • It is the most responsible job in world. And the prospects are bad, as you've got a very high chance of ruining it.
  • Do you like sleep? You might not know it, but you'll discover just how much you like to sleep when you have a baby, because then you won't get any. You will turn into a zombie with no energy. Because you already have to devote all your free time to the baby, you'll be even more tired compared to when you would normally be missing out on sleep. So better get used to the idea of going through life as a half-dead zombie.
  • And then there's the cost. Typically the first two years cost somewhere between 10-20k. The total cost up to age 18, on average, is over 200k. Imagine paying that and getting two decades of suffering in return.
  • Most parents also have to come to terms with the fact that they will age much faster than child-free people, as the tremendous stress takes its toll on the body.
And your reward for all that?

A daughter or son you resent with a passion, and he or she will probably dislike you even more in return. And this tragedy is sadly quite common nowadays.

You may be wondering if anything can't be done about it? Well yes, there is something you could do right now if you're pregnant: take an abortion. Just do yourself, your soon-to-be-dead baby, and the whole world a favor and stop the drama before it even takes place. Can't afford an abortion? Let your husband or friend punch you in the gut really hard. It will probably be quite messy and painful, but it pales compared to the filth and pain you'd have to endure if you decide to keep it.

If you just recently got a kid or squeezed out a wailing fat baby, and you're thinking "Oh no! I'm too late!" Don't worry: doctors are agreeing that killing newborn infants is OK since they are less than human. Yay!

Anyone want some baby powder?
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Post by Jackie » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:02 pm

Turn up your speakers or put on your headphones and listen to this fantastic song. If you enjoy it as much as I did, you're in for a treat!

Here are some more funny baby related pics:

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Last picture is too large to embed, follow this link instead.
http://www.dontevenreply.com/allcomments.php?post=90

And finally, another video explaining how to be prepared to raise a baby. Can't embed this one either, sadly. Do watch, very educational material.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f28T0YQkKwI

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Post by spirochete » Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:15 am

I imagine you would prefer people to materialise as adults. Unfortunately, everyone has to be a baby at some point. You couldn't write this post unless babies happened.

So many points, but so little logic.
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Post by Jackie » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:56 pm

I have made a small adjustment to the article. As said before, it contains an image I made myself. Because it is original artwork made specifically for this article and this site, I have put the url of social deviancy on it. Yesterday I read a story online of a guy who criticized a website which stole images of other sites for their own articles. Personally I don't care if anyone copies an image I made to their own website, but one of the plagiarized images I saw yesterday had the address of the original source on it. That made me realize something important. Imagine if someone views this article I wrote, sees my image and decides to copy and post it elsewhere. Someone else who had never heard of social deviancy sees the copied image, and he's like "that's some cool stuff". He will see the address of our site on the bottom of the image, visits social deviancy and like it so much, he'll tell all his friends how great it is.

Alright, I'll admit that's not likely to happen, but whatever the case, it's a form of free advertisement nonetheless. No need to thank me Venomous. I guess there is no specific watermark you already have in use right? I'll be sure to mark any and all home-brewed images in the future too.


Okay, let's go back to the topic of babies. A few years ago a woman microwaved her baby. No, she wasn't planning on eating her baby(thought that would have been quite tasty, no doubt) actually she did it because the baby was driving her insane.

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Hehehe. Man that is hilarious. I'm sure everyone is thinking "you're such a sick, horrible unsympathetic asshole!" and to some extend I agree it is kind of bad to find these tragic stories funny in any way. HOWEVER. The way I picture it in my head, I think of the movie Gremlins, where they'd put a gremlin in a microwave, and it exploded, as if a can of spinach had been blown up. I envision the same thing happening to the baby. BOOM! Ho ho ho! God, that is funny.

AHUM. What I wanted to talk about is a lot of parents just can't put up with their baby anymore. Either the responsibility is too much, they can't handle the fact it's eating up all their free time, or they regret their decision because it's ruining their relationship, you name it, but the expectation a lot of parents had of a fun happy life once you have a baby turned out to be all wrong. And that is why there are so many cases of infanticide. You hear it all the time. If only parenthood wasn't so extremely glorified, I'm sure a lot less babies would have to die. Everyone really need to stop pretending it's the best thing that will ever happen to you, because for some it's actually one of the worst experiences in life. Other issues which contribute to this problem is that proper contraception isn't available yet. The methods in use right now are unreliable and generally just suck. Then there's the taboo on abortion, and the cost. Abortion shouldn't cost money, you should be paid for it because you're doing a good thing. Lastly there are no restrictions on reproduction. If it where up to me you'd have to get a license with very strict requirements to be allowed to have a child.

I can rant for days about this subject, but I'll save some for next time.

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Post by Venomous » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:13 am

I haven't weighed in on this yet because until just now, I haven't been quite drunk enough. But I must say, kudos for watermarking your original work with the SocDev URL, Jackie. I was particularly impressed by your cartoon, and hope to see more of them in the future. You have talent.

As to babies, unfortunately spirochete has it right - as unpleasant as babies may be, what is the alternative? We haven't yet reached the level of technology where humans can be raised in a laboratory or tank until pubescence. Babies are sort of a necessary part of human development. Should they be raised from birth until age X in a controlled environment? Perhaps. They certainly are unpleasant. But there are a whole host of human rights issues involved with that, and as you stated in your article, almost all parents seem to view their own spawn as beautiful innocent creatures.

From an evolutionary standpoint, human babies are pathetic. Most other creatures on Earth are born with some basic instincts that make survival possible. Most can at least walk within hours of birth, many can run with the herd and feed themselves soon after. Human babies are born as flabby wrinkly lumps of dough that can only cry, poop, piss, and wriggle helplessly.

My mind strays to the show [wiki]Kyle XY[/wiki], which centers around a boy who was grown in a vat until teenagehood. He is exceptionally talented and has many abilities not possessed by those who only spent nine months in the womb. One wonder, if human babies were left to gestate for longer than nine months, artificially or otherwise, what could they achieve as adults? Would they be superhuman, so to speak? Or would it merely be a peaceful way to avoid the troublesome growth years that come with giving birth after nine months to a helpless squalling blob?

Just my two cents here...
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Post by spirochete » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:58 am

Venomous wrote: From an evolutionary standpoint, human babies are pathetic. Most other creatures on Earth are born with some basic instincts that make survival possible. Most can at least walk within hours of birth, many can run with the herd and feed themselves soon after. Human babies are born as flabby wrinkly lumps of dough that can only cry, poop, piss, and wriggle helplessly.
This suggests you may not quite grasp how evolution works. Evolutionary changes don't always appear as bigger, stronger, faster. Animals that continue to survive generally adapt to survive to the point of occupying a niche. For example, despite being slow, sloths exist. This is because they fit their niche, which doesn't involve a major predator.

Humans developed as family units to protect newborns during their weak stage. Humans have larger brains to their body size than other animals, which allows for more complex brain function, allowing creation of tools, weapons, etc. The flipside of that is that babies can't lift their own heads for a while after birth.
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Post by Jackie » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:30 pm

Venomous wrote:I was particularly impressed by your cartoon, and hope to see more of them in the future. You have talent.
I don't believe in talent, but thanks anyway. I will definitely make more drawings when the need arises.

Concerning babies, the issue is not at all complicated. Some people enjoy raising a baby, and have the finances, capability, and mental (in)stability to take care of them. And that's good, I'd say let them have a baby if they want. As for everyone else, which is probably at least 95% of the world population, they do not get a baby, no matter how much they want it. After all, most people are bad parents. So if procreation becomes a special right, reserved only for those who have proven themselves worthy and suited to raising offspring, then everything will work out fine.

I know a lot of uptight dumbasses will complain they want to have children and they don't accept his sort of discrimination, but this is where people need to be globally reeducated and have their mentality changed. Everyone ought to receive mandatory education on what it means to be a parent and what your life will look like when you decide to have a baby. This information should be presented in a simple, visual, and honest manner. Too many people take the decision far too lightly and don't know what they're getting themselves into. Besides, a lot of folks think they will do a great job as parents, when actually they suck.
spirochete wrote:This suggests you may not quite grasp how evolution works. Evolutionary changes don't always appear as bigger, stronger, faster.
If a specie adapts to become worse in general, we don't call it evolution, but devolution. The very reason this article was written is because babies have degenerated to the point that they're insufferable, completely helpless, weak, vulgar, pathetic shrieking worms who need to be helped with everything – and the fact that people like you are responsible for that. It is one thing if you are willing to put up with all the horrible features of an infant, but to actually justify their devolution is so wrong I can't even find the words to scold you. Your level of tolerance borders on insanity.

We are now at a point that a normal person can't even have a baby anymore. No, that takes someone with a very specific kind of mental illness, the kind of disorder that makes you indifferent to being mangled and abused, knowing that that wasn't necessary if only the long line of people who came before you weren't so extremely careless and stupid. There are a lot of people who don't have this particular disorder. They are the ones who throw their babies out of the window. We should probably be grateful for them. While infanticide isn't necessarily a good thing, it's still beats supporting dygenics.

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Post by spirochete » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:29 pm

Devolution is a fallacy. The process, no matter what the result is, is still evolution. Also, it relies on reproduction to be possible. You are now saying you have to be mentally ill to prevent the continuation of the human race. What a load of horseshit. This just further proves how ignorant you are. Reproduction is the norm. Where do you get this 95% from? We would all just slowly die off if that were true.

Also, you are contradicting yourself. You say that it requires a certain type of mental illness to tolerate raising a child, but you have also said people should go through heavy scrutiny to be allowed to raise a child. It can't be both ways.

You are simply an ignorant, contrarian sociopath who should DEFINITELY not have children. So glad I am not you.
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Post by spirochete » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:31 am

Jackie wrote: If a specie adapts to become worse in general, we don't call it evolution, but devolution.
Belief in Devolution to me is the earmark of someone who really doesn't know what they are talking about. Evolution is a process that allows things that don't kill us to carry on in the gene pool of the species. The way humans are now, there is no current major thing the human species can't overcome (catastrophic events/disasters, effective predators, highly contagious diseases) that would stop us from passing on our genes to the next generation. This means there are currently only minor changes in humans. This is not a separate process to evolution. It IS evolution.

The mental illness you claim lets you be able to "tolerate" having a child is known as the nurturing instinct. It is the reason why people will almost always find their own children to be cute, lovable and therefore worth the hassle of raising them. This is an unavoidable trait of humans, and many other animals as well. It is required to continue the species.

Your uninformed argument lacks even the basic obvious knowledge that you wouldn't be able to post this if humans couldn't "tolerate" raising a child.
Jackie wrote: We are now at a point that a normal person can't even have a baby anymore.
I'd love to know what your definition of a normal person is. It seems to be someone who can't stand babies. This is impossible, as the most statistically common trait is the norm. Your idea that babies are disgusting is not the norm, which means you are in a minority. If it was the norm, humans would die out. I think it is for the best that specifically you yourself have that view, here's hoping your sociopathic tendencies won't be passed on.

So, YOU are not a normal person, if your tiny brain can grasp that. Also, you were a disgusting baby.

I'd also like to know what your requirements for a baby to be acceptable to you are. Would you ascertain this by having them run a military style obstacle course soon after birth? Leave them out in the desert and see if they survive?
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Post by Venomous » Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:50 am

Funny the direction this thread has taken, since I didn't even mean to use the word "evolution" in the first place. I was drunk, and grasping for the right word to use, but evolution wasn't it. Still, it has provoked some interesting discourse so I guess it was for the best.

I think what Jackie is at least partly saying is that parents should be tested and possibly require a license to produce children. I actually agree with this. There are some really fucking terrible parents out there raising some really fucking terrible children as a result. Like any rational scientifically minded person, I know there is no such thing as devolution, but the way that most of the human race is beginning to evolve seems to be embracing negative traits in recent generations such as stupidity, laziness, heavy reliance on technology, lack of basic survival skills, etc. If these "Millennials" were born a few centuries or even a few decades ago, yet somehow with the same core values they have today, they would quickly struggle, fail and ultimately die. But of course such a hypothesis is impossible because their parents back then would have raised them to be hardier and more responsible.

Personally I don't think the fault lies with babies. It lies with the parents. It is a parental responsibility to raise children that are moral, ethical, responsible, intelligent, dependable, and so forth. When we don't do this, we end up with what Jackie calls "devolution", ie. the seeming likelihood that we are going backwards as a species and producing increasingly weak, pathetic offspring that will grow into weak, pathetic adults someday. And these people will soon be the ones running our countries and deciding our fates when we are too old to do so. It is scary.

So yes. Educate potential parents to be responsible caregivers, perhaps even require them to pass some sort of examination or achieve a license to breed. It would eliminate idiocy such as teen (or younger) parenting, welfare dependency, unemployment, overcrowding, and gods only know what else. I'm for it.
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Post by Hellmark » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:20 pm

This is a mixed bag for me.

My wife and I can't have kids. She can get pregnant and I am not sterile, but if she were to get pregnant, both her and the baby would most likely die due to a genetic condition she has. Really sucks, because I would like to have kids. We have talked about adoption, but it is a long, difficult and very expensive process.

A friend of ours physically can't get pregnant, and would love to be a mom. Her sister is a druggie party girl with an awesome daughter that she abandons for weeks at a time. She can't really say or do much, because the sister will take the kid away in retaliation.

Just really sucks for so many people who want kids but can't, and the number of assholes who take their kids for granted.

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Post by TSJ » Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:16 pm

One thing is other people's babies. .. the real nightmare begins when you have babies of your own....

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